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PostSubject: possible pediphile software   Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:58 am

I recently observed something and took notice of it for it's potential. I can't explain just yet how I came by this information. I found this disturbing and need to know if anything similar has been seen anywhere else.

I have been 'observing ' two pediphiles who are out on parole. They live at oposite ends of the city and use the internet. Neither appear to work at a outside job but pay rent, etc. They must be employed as terms of their parole but I cant figure that part out yet.
However, while they are carefull about what they do online from thier computers, at different times I observed the two of them using some sort of software to share pictures of naked children. It appears to be some sort of comercial program that has it's own server somewhere. The system appears to be closed to anyone who dosent have the program.
It appears top be similar to a comercial program that business uses to register with governement for permits, registration, that sort of thing. I have seen similar programs used before so I noticed the resemblence.
It seems to keep everything on it's server so the 'user' does not download anything suspicious to his own computer. Not using a browser means no cache, no history. Nothing to prove he was ever doing that shit.
Has anyone seen anything similar used like this? It might be disguised as something else but would be out of place on a home computer most of the time.
They have access to thousands of pictures and videos. I would like to try and put a stop to this.
your help is greatly appreaciated.

Thanatos


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PostSubject: Re: possible pediphile software   Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:22 pm

Hello Thanatos,

Sad to say it is next to impossible to stay ahead of the pervs. Though I always try to none the less. I have worked out a partial solution to keep the younger kids (the perverts favorite targets of opportunity) fairly safe from harm. Here is a link I can recommend passing out to parents of young children http://kidzworld.r8.org . I know that this one is safe as I made it with my own 2 little hands. The problem with most sites on line are the links .Each one leading to another site which also has links leading only God knows where. Kidz world has no links leading anywhere a small child would not be safe. It has resulted in a sort of mini web ring of child safe sites. The web ring is also under patrol 24 - 7 - 365 by a cadre of concerned parents and grandparents that spans national boundaries and international date lines as well. Till such time as we can track down all the perverts we need to create safe harbors such as this one for kids. There have been several attempts to breach the security of this web ring by said perverts but they havenít slithered in as yet. Those that try get a special package dreamed up by a friend of mine that reformats the boot block of their hard drive rendering it inoperable. I donít know exactly how it works myself being far from a master hacker but I have witnessed itís effectiveness. Hope this helps as a stop gap till we track the bad guys down. It may be that someone brighter than me will see this and have a more permanent solution to the problem you have mentioned.

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PostSubject: Re: possible pediphile software   Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:02 am

I have no clue other then to record who you saw did it and perhaps take a picture. I did run a quick google check and came up with this address. I have no clue how it works.
http://www.internetpredatortracker.com/press.htm

Good Luck with it man. Any tips you can share would be fantastic.
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PostSubject: thanks   Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:31 am

thanks for the link. I am going to contact them and see if I can get a beta version to 'test'

Oh I do have pictures but I want the network, not just these two creeps
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PostSubject: Re: possible pediphile software   Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:47 am

Digital Heroism is like walking a fine line. Working just like real life we cannot just go and bust heads. The software you are suggesting Superman is malicious. While used for a good reason it can still be used to incarcerate users by law inforcement agencies. I have a past in White Hat hacking, a long past and have had some interaction with law inforcement because of it. Thank god I was underage or I would have a criminal record.

Most of the software I use is for observation. While still technically illegal it does not harm the targets computer so would serve a lesser fine for me. Basically what I am saying is be smart how you act, choose your tools carefully and never go in for a kill. Let the officials handle it. They do take anonymous tips seriously.
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PostSubject: Re: possible pediphile software   Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:53 pm


Hello Static,

I suggest that you re read my post more carefully paying attention to the details. I was not the one who sent the offenders what ever it was that took them off line. For one thing Iím not that good. It was an on line friend of mine that I have never met in person. I was the one that created (WITH THE HELP OF CONCERNED PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS) a kid safe web site with sealed links. That is perfectly legal last time I looked. I was discussing the problem with my friend asking for advice etc as said kiddie porn ring was multi-national in nature and therefor hard to pin down law enforcement wise. What I had in mind was finding the proper authorities to turn them in to. My friend said to me not to worry that he would take care of things. So then all the kiddy porn purveyors that had been harassing me went poof and havenít been heard from since. When I mentioned it to him was when I found out he had taken things into his own hands. Was taking down a porn site by force that was outside USA jurisdiction and coming from a place with no extradition Illegal under USA law? Probably was, I will defer to your knowledge on that. Is my little on line friend even residing in the USA? Hey itís the Internet so who knows for sure? Am I sad that said friend went vigilante and wiped them out rather than seeking legal means of redress? To be honest, not really. As far as Iím concerned less kiddie porn on line is a good thing. I am more into results than how they were achieved. Guess itís like that Beatles song " I get by with a little help from my friends".

As always further comments are invited.
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PostSubject: Re: possible pediphile software   Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:49 pm

I was just making a notation on the software and use. Kind of a disclaimer if you will. I understand you did not have a hand in its creation or use but the legalities of it still need to be discussed. If not to disuade others from openly becoming malicious hackers than to make a note of it incase of government agencies who may come across these forums (And they will if it gets enough traffic.)

From what I can see you are taking everything I say on a personal level. Objectivity is needed. Don't look at my posts as a critical post against you. Look at my post as a subjective comment. If you are not taking my comments personally than I am sorry for saying it. I just want you to understand I have a logical mind and do not involve myself emotionaly in conversations or think about how my posts may effect someone on a emotional level. It is a problem I am working on.


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PostSubject: Re: possible pediphile software   Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:11 am

Man either way, it seems rather risky. Isn't there a way to join a task force of some kind?
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PostSubject: Re: possible pediphile software   Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:09 pm


Hi Static and Big Z,

1st off I donít take it personally Static. If and when I get ticked off (on or off line) trust me bubba people know. Even Helen Keller could figure that 1 out. As a provider of kid safe web sites I did take it kind of personal though when some child porn type tries to Spam 1 of my sites with their filth. My Grandkids go there and this Grandpa gets real protective. That was my solution to the kid porn hassle. Creating safe harbors for kids where they are free from porn or predators. Near as I can tell (especially at the time it all came up) there was no multinational multi-jurisdictional group of any kind to deal with this. As far as I can tell it is still that way. Where there is no adequate law enforcement agency vigilantism will arise. It is 1 of the reasons for the RLSH movement we are in the middle of right now. A lot of folks have lost faith in regular law enforcement and perceive a lack of heroic role models in todayís world. This has been building for some time as witnessed when the press christened Bernard Getz the Death Whish Killer after the series of Charles Bronson Movies. The Internet has gotten way ahead of any present legal agency to adequately monitor it or protect folks on it. If it had among other things there would be no Static Android would there? But there is and you are him and having the logical mindset you claim I canít see you trying to take on a job that is already adequately filled. Cyber Crooks are getting real good at hiding out on line and locating the physical equipment they use in places that embrace their Illegal lifestyle. The way I figure it until such time as an adequately equipped legal means and agency for fighting off such things exists , those that choose to take on the bad guys will use such tools a come to hand and apply them based on their personal mind sets. Not taking a stance on weather or not itís right or wrong. Just predicting what I believe will happen given the set of circumstances as stated here. If I am proven wrong on this no one will be happier about it than me.

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