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PostSubject: Home server ring   Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:12 am

Greetings,

Superman likes golden FTP which is free however, it doesn't run on linux and they want you to upgrade to their product. So I found this. http://filezilla-project.org/ Perhaps we should get two home servers working together first before we try and get more going.
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PostSubject: Re: Home server ring   Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:58 am

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PostSubject: Re: Home server ring   Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:30 pm

Greetings,

I found this:

http://www.ring.gr.jp/

sincerely,

steve
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PostSubject: Re: Home server ring   Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:38 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Home server ring   Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:13 pm

Greetings, so are we going to build a home server ring or a grid?
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PostSubject: Re: Home server ring   Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:12 pm


Iíd say a ring, as rings are easier and can be cross platform and embrace vastly different operating systems. Basically a server ring works like a web ring for the most part. A web ring is a list of links for web sites that have chosen to work together for whatever reason. A server ring is a list of address or links for servers that have chosen to work together like the sites in a web ring do. The biggest and really the only difference is that being servers rather than sites, we possess the actual physical computers and can set our own rules. When setting up a site on someone elseís server you have to follow their rules as to what can and canít go there. But as ring itís self is just a list of links carried on all the participating servers, any particular server can be set up however itís owner want to set it up. A link is a link is a link. Weather the server uses a Unix, linix or windows operating system. If so inclined you can even link apple commodore and IBM format computers together. It may end up looking like some mongrel pup to a school trained computer purist. But it will work and as any pet owner can tell you a mongrel is often sturdier than a purebred.

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PostSubject: Re: Home server ring   Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:55 pm

One thing is that server ring gives us a model to go off of. What are we using the server ring for? To host content of the project? One thing too is we could have mirror servers for busy ones.
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PostSubject: Re: Home server ring   Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:50 pm

One thing too is alot of these free services seem to make money by advertising. If we can make a home server network we should be able to run our own ads. For example, compensating people for the electrical use of the computers, and buying old pcs.

Personally, I think one of the things is if perhaps we could do automated backups of our files. That way, if one of our computers get destroyed we could go online, and get our files. Though we have to watch out about their being senitive info on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Home server ring   Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:13 am

ThePatriot wrote:
One thing too is alot of these free services seem to make money by advertising. If we can make a home server network we should be able to run our own ads. For example, compensating people for the electrical use of the computers, and buying old pcs.

Personally, I think one of the things is if perhaps we could do automated backups of our files. That way, if one of our computers get destroyed we could go online, and get our files. Though we have to watch out about their being senitive info on it.

Not to sound too unduly hardcore but anyone not smart enough to back up their stuff pretty much deserves to lose it. I know it sounds mean but the truth hurts. I back up everything of value I have, computer related or not. Part of the classes I hope to have on computers will cover proper backups of materials in more than 1 location.
Now as far as making money from advertising goes Iíll worry about it when someone offers to pay money for running his or her ads on our stuff. Before they want to do that we will have to be way more bad ass than we are now. There is also the problem that running ads for money might screw with our getting non-profit status. There is some serious paperwork involved in that and I am working on it as time permits. An official non-profit status would greatly help our cause and increase our creditability. So I am trying to make sure it happens. Any offers of assistance on the legal stuff will be gratefully accepted.

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PostSubject: Re: Home server ring   Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:58 am

Greetings,

One place people can back up there stuff is mozy.com, but the site has a limit to how much one can backup. What I like about it is it will automatically backup your stuff. It would save time from manually having to do it.

Also, one way we could do is use google adsense. It's used by the makers of this board. By the time we have a server ring I think we'll be ALOT more hardcore then we are now. About messing with the nonprofit status, perhaps we could ask for donations instead of asking market price. If I can help with the non-profit status let me know but I don't know how much help I would be.

Another thing, is instead of creating content content for kids initially, may we could host it. We could take care of the customer support, maintaining the servers, selling the games, etc. That would take the load off alot of small indy game makers. Or maybe the game makers could run the ads instead of charging for the game.
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PostSubject: Re: Home server ring   Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:57 am

Greetings,

Well, I saw this:

http://gamerscoreblog.com/press/archive/2010/02/05/gh789.aspx

and I had a thought. Too bad we future server ring couldnt' host games for like the xbox, and consoles that are no longer supported. Because there are probably going to be alot of people out there that are looking for online content.

Also another thing I have been thinking about is it would be better to have multiple servers for a game spread out. Then the information doesn't have to grave as far to people in different parts of the world or regions. Though we could start out with two player games like chess. It would do something.
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